Curse

Kyle · Jul 14, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Well I have a mesmer that has completed prophicies campaign and with no character slots left i want to make a ritualist. My mesmer is the least played character. So i would apprecaite any suggestions on why to keep my mesmer and just forget about the ritualist. Thank you very much.

Kyle

Eaimirth Etaivella · Jul 14, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

Are your reaction times good?
Can you predict enemies?
Have you memorized most if not all of the enemy's skill bars?
Attribute points in those bars?
When/Why the use select skills?
Most of the common builds or meta-game if you pvp?

Just some of the questions that should help.

Fantus · Jul 14, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Well, you beat the game with a Mesmer (meaning you have played one for quite a while) and obviously you have found out that you didn't overly like them or you would play more with him/her. There is no reason not to delete such a character.

There might be of course the possibility to wait for the additional character slots you will be able to buy soon and keep the Mesmer for sentimental reasons...

(yes, these words are maybe surprising coming from one who adores Mesmers, but it needs to be acknowledged that there are different tastes and that this class is not for everyone)

Pick Me · Jul 14, 2006, 01:32 PM // 13:32

Congratulations on completing Tyria with a Mesmer.

Now, I'm guessing you rarely play your mesmer because, 1) its hard to get into groups; 2) it is more of a support character (reducing damage or making others hurt themselves as they try to hurt your party); and/or 3) some of the skills don't seem to be as pleasing to use as skills from your other characters are.

Mesmers seemed to be (at least to me) more like in Canthas then they are in Tyria.

You've spent so much time and money on your Mesmer, it seems such a waste to delete him/her.

Ritualists cannot buy anything in Tyria

. But Mesmers can buy armor, weapons, items, etc. in Canthas.

The only reason to kill off your Mesmer is if you hate that profession; if you love being a Ritualist (healer/protector/spiker/MM/Spirit Spammer, etc.); or if you just don't feel the excitement or pleasure that you do from your other characters.

Good luck in making your decision.

Cassius The Bold · Jul 14, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

I used to wonder why anyone would want to play Mesmer. I started the game off as a typical W/Mo, then as a monk. It took me almost a full year to really get into PvP seriously. When I did, I started with a PvP only Mesmer and its now my main PvP character while I run a PvE Me through.

That said, if the Mesmer class doesn't fit your playing style then why waste a slot on a character you hardly play, even if it is a lvl20.

Option of last resort: You could always plunk down another $50-100 on a second GW account too... but then you better like playing Rt alot.

Ole Man Bourbon · Jul 14, 2006, 04:14 PM // 16:14

I'd say play the Mesmer with many different builds (interrupt, edenial, shutdown, degen, flashbot, etc) in many different environments (pve and pvp) and if you still don't like it, scrap it.

I didn't like my Mesmer at first in PvE, then when I played a little PvP I realized that there was so much I wasn't doing in both environments. I think Mez is a lot of fun in PvE really.

A good thing about a Mez in PvE is that a lot of groups won't take you. . . the idiot groups. They weed themselves out for you.

holden · Jul 14, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon

A good thing about a Mez in PvE is that a lot of groups won't take you. . . the idiot groups. They weed themselves out for you.

thats true.

i started a Rit and have since put it down. she's level 20 and just boring to me. the mesmer and the monk are as good as it gets imo. complex and interesting every time.

9th Requiem · Jul 14, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

I deleted my first mesmer, and about a month later, created a new one. I'd definately advise trying as much out as possible, then think more. Read through a few builds here and elsewhere, take a look at the skill list or both this and the Rit. Then think about new char slots are nearby, and if you either don't want to buy any, or you don't think you'd want your mesmer anyway, or don't want to wait. Then decide.

Ari Shiningstar · Jul 14, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

When I play my rit, people take me when they can't get a monk. They want me to go restoration. If i'm gonna be a healer, I'd rather just play my monk. I've done spirit spamming, it's ok, but alot like making minions to me just mindless casting. I haven't done a ton of channeling, so I can't judge. Don't get me wrong I like grouping with rits. I just find healing with them frustrating. Maybe since they improved wielder's boon it will be better.

Ari Shingingstar

Sali Su and co. · Jul 15, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

My channelling Ritualist is very fun to play. I think its because with the build I get to use spirits, items and lightning spells which makes him quite diverse. and he still has space for his pet crane and storm chaser =)

I also love my healer rit (yes... I have two). I have noticed that he does not get targeted as quickly as a monk would be in Alliance battles but maybe i've been lucky? I dont know.

However, I have 3 Mesmers... so would have to say I prefer them.

Maya Aimi · Jul 16, 2006, 09:57 AM // 09:57

It seems that you dont play Mesmer much. Just delete it bro.

Servant of Kali · Jul 16, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12

Hmm.... as i said before, mesmer is still my #1 profession, Rt being 2nd. That being said, why would u play memser if you dont like it? Not everyone likes the same style.

Finding groups in pve is no reason to play or not to play something.

Now, just a few things:

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Originally Posted by holden

i started a Rit and have since put it down. she's level 20 and just boring to me. the mesmer and the monk are as good as it gets imo. complex and interesting every time.

Mesmer is somewhat more complex but monk in pve isnt. I fail to see how monk is not boring and Rt is

Rt can be prot and heal, and it differs a lot from how monk does it. Rt can go restoration dmg (Khanei, Vengeful), can go communing dmg with spirits, and Channeling with spells. Can even go MM.

Now, i perfectly understand if all of this is boring to someone. I love it, so i play it. But saying that monk in pve is more complex.. no not really. And i finished Prophecies with monk. Love playing with monk too, but Rt offers way more versatility.

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

Ritualists cannot buy anything in Tyria . But Mesmers can buy armor, weapons, items, etc. in Canthas.

But does it matter?

I think 15k luxon Rt armor is adorable. Others are nice. The fact that you cant buy anything in Tyria doesnt mean much at all. You're gonna spend most of your time, if not all, holding ashes. No one will even see the weapons you use, nor will you use it. Weapons for most Ritualists are obsolete, it's the only class which can be truly weapon-independent

I dont think this should be argument in what to choose. As you said, he should go with what he finds fun playing

Again, i dont like the discussions what profession is the best. Someone loves elementalist, i find it boring. Someone loves warriors, i find em boring cause everyone plays it. Someone loves necro armor, meh i think it's ugly and i dont like necros. Since game is pretty good balanced compared to other games i've played, there's absolutely no reason to play something you dont like.

And PUG groups.. who cares. Btw i had lvl20 mesmer in Tyria and dont recall having problems with groups. And in Factions mesmers are stronger.

Pick Me · Jul 17, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by Servant of Kali

Finding groups in pve is no reason to play or not to play something.

Agreed. But I find that people go into groups because its more fun. People like to chat with others, and chatting with Henchies is useless.

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Originally Posted by Servant of Kali

Mesmer is somewhat more complex but monk in pve isnt. I fail to see how monk is not boring and Rt is

Rt can be prot and heal, and it differs a lot from how monk does it. Rt can go restoration dmg (Khanei, Vengeful), can go communing dmg with spirits, and Channeling with spells. Can even go MM.

Agreed again. I find both can be fun and depending on what your secondary profession is, it can be even more fun.

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Originally Posted by Servant of Kali

But does it matter?

I think 15k luxon Rt armor is adorable. Others are nice. The fact that you cant buy anything in Tyria doesnt mean much at all. You're gonna spend most of your time, if not all, holding ashes. No one will even see the weapons you use, nor will you use it. Weapons for most Ritualists are obsolete, it's the only class which can be truly weapon-independent

No, it doesn't matter about whether or not you can buy things (at least to me), but it may be something others may consider. Weapon-independent? You can say that about Monks, Mesmers, Elementalists, and Necromancers. Not one of them truly needs to attack with a weapon (unless you choose a Meleemancer or IW Warrior, etc.) But extra energy and health from weapons and off-hand items can be useful.

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Originally Posted by Servant of Kali

I dont think this should be argument in what to choose. As you said, he should go with what he finds fun playing

Again, i dont like the discussions what profession is the best. Someone loves elementalist, i find it boring. Someone loves warriors, i find em boring cause everyone plays it. Someone loves necro armor, meh i think it's ugly and i dont like necros. Since game is pretty good balanced compared to other games i've played, there's absolutely no reason to play something you dont like.

And PUG groups.. who cares. Btw i had lvl20 mesmer in Tyria and dont recall having problems with groups. And in Factions mesmers are stronger.

I agree with you here as well. I for one love my female Necro/Mes' armor. But yes, some armor may not look as appealing.

No one argues with your profession when you start your own group or when someone asks for "need one more person for mission".

In Factions definitely, Mesmers are stronger (not that they aren't strong in Tyria).

Ezekiel Prophet · Jul 19, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon

A good thing about a Mez in PvE is that a lot of groups won't take you. . . the idiot groups. They weed themselves out for you.

Ahh, this is so true. When I do a PUG, I try to put together balanced groups (in terms of classes). I try to get a int/shutdown mesmer always. If nothing else, I'll take an interrupt ranger. But I prefer them to be barragers, as mesmers are way better for stopping casters dead (literally).

Northrog · Jul 19, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Play a rit, click on a skill, take a coffee, come back => omg it's not finished !!!

What a fun !!!

Sorry I overdid it. Rt is indeed a good class if you want versatility. But mesmer is the best if you love to control your opponent : there really is a lot of fun !!!

Suuk · Jul 19, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Prophet

I try to get a int/shutdown mesmer always. If nothing else, I'll take an interrupt ranger. But I prefer them to be barragers, as mesmers are way better for stopping casters dead (literally).

I dont agree with that. Barrage is a way ' overesteemed' skill. There are much better elites for the benefit of a party. And a ranger can be a much better intterupter than a mesmer. But, hey that is my opinion.

Back on topic: like all mesmer-lovers above I strongly advice you NOT to delete your mesmer. It is so much fun to play with, especially when you are becoming a more seasoned player (i.e. W/Mo with mending does not appeal to you anymore) and are looking for advanced play.

But, if you just dont like it, just delete it!

DragonFeast · Jul 23, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50

yess keep it!! THEY LOOK l33t